Save The Three Cups Hotel

The Three Cups Hotel

Campaigning for preservation of the hotel where J.R.R. Tolkien stayed and gained inspiration for his mythology. Jane Austen, G.K. Chesterton, Tennyson and H.W. Longfellow were also guests. The hotel featured in the film, “The French Lieutenant’s Woman”. Please send articles to me, Andrew Townsend, at afmt@btinternet.com or add a comment. Thanks to David Moss for all his work. Comments are closed at WDDC for the plans to redevelop the site but you can still write to the papers.

Friday, August 20, 2010

Bridport and Lyme Regis News Coverage

Letters from David Young and John Grantham appeared in this week's paper. Click through to read them.

What about plans process?

I was interested to read the article in last weeks Bridport News under the title ‘Brewery plans are ready’ in particular that comment by Palmers about the Three Cups hotel in Lyme Regis where it states that ‘Palmers has this week insisted it will never be a hotel again’.

If I was in the planning department at West Dorset District Council I would be most concerned that such a high profile company would seem not to be governed by the same planning process as that which applies to everyone else.

Palmers should assume nothing until the process of consultation, application, objections and possible enquiry has been completed.

Only then, if they are successful at the end of this process, would they be able to make such a statement.

It should also be a concern of the planning department that this pre-emptive statement may be considered by some to indicate that an accommodation has already been reached by WDDC and Palmers which, if it were the case, would be totally inappropriate.

Yours sincerely

David Young

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Report’s major shortcomings

Despite Lyme residents 235-0 vote to keep the Three Cups Hotel ‘as a hotel’ and 1,397 people signing a petition in just 24 hours - Lyme Regis News confirms Palmers say it’ll never be a hotel again:

“A spokesman for the brewery said….the hotel option has been explored using independent specialists to produce a report that was independently verified for WDDC. The outcome was that a hotel was found to be economically unviable”.
But the facts are:

The Palmers-commissioned TRI Report suffers from significant shortcomings. It compares ‘like with unlike’, contrasting the 13 or 20 bedroom unique Three Cups Hotel against a stock of “major chain-operated hotels of up to 50 bedrooms” – any market researcher would shudder at this comparison of the Cups against a database of hotels very unlike it. It then assumes it’ll cost the price of a whole new house to do up each ‘bedroom’ – between £206,000 and £231,000 each! And TRI have added no less than £25,000 for furniture for each of these rooms! Moreover, the TRI Report was never “verified for WDDC” - the Goadsby Report certainly did not assert “that a hotel was economically unviable”. The Council Leader, challenged, could only say, 4 months after Goadsby’s publication, that the Council still “hasn’t taken a final view on the viability of the Three Cups Hotel as a hotel”!

Why? It’s clear: TRI has significant shortcomings and Goadsby did not confirm in principle that a hotel would be unviable.

What does WDDC do now? The Reports patently don’t do what they perhaps had hoped.

And John Dover says – “there are hoteliers in the wings, wanting to buy it as a hotel”!

And yet a Consultation Day WITHOUT a hotel option?

“Is this listening?!”

John Grantham
Community Alert on Pubs and Hotels

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Friday, August 13, 2010

Palmers Ignore The Will of The People

An article in the Bridport & Lyme Regis News this week announces that Palmers Brewery, the owners of The Three Cups HOTEL, intend to ignore the wishes of the people of Lyme Regis and the commercial demand for this building, by turning it into flats. Click through to read more.

Retail and restaurant but hotel is ruled out

Palmers Brewery is ready to reveal its multi-million pound plans for the former Three Cups Hotel.
The long-awaited findings of a seven-month consultation will finally be made public at a special consultation day to be held in Lyme Regis next month.
The Bridport-based brewery is considering a number of proposals for the former Broad Street hotel, which has been closed for 20 years.
They include retail use, a new restaurant – which is hoped will attract a celebrity chef – residential units, and the possibility of some letting rooms.
Palmers has this week insisted it will never be a hotel again, but defiant campaigners say they are still fighting to see the Three Cups returned to its former glory.
The plans will be revealed at a consultation event at the Pilot Boat Inn from 12.30pm to 9pm on Wednesday, September 15, when Palmers representatives will be available to explain the various options under consideration and the public will be invited to comment.
John Palmer, the managing director of Palmers Brewery, said: “We think we have found some potential ways forward for the site, but we want to share them with the people of Lyme Regis and hear what they have to say before we make any final decisions and submit a planning application.”

Palmers seek views before submitting final plan
Have your say on the Three Cups

The Save the Three Cups as a Hotel Group is not surprised the proposals will not include a hotel option.
Group Chairman John Dover said “We are pleased to see we now have a date for Palmers’ public consultation day albeit two months later than promised. Let’s hope their proposals fairly reflect the inputs already made by ourselves, town and district councillors and planning officers.
“We remain committed to the hotel option particularly as we have hoteliers in the wings wanting to buy and reopen the three Cups as a hotel.
“We believe this is still the best outcome to jointly benefit the owners and the needs of Lyme Regis and its economy. We are disappointed but not surprised that the likely proposals will not include the hotel option.
“Our overriding concern is that this iconic building of great historical importance is saved for the future generations of Lyme and beyond.”
Several options will be presented – including retail use and the front of the building, additional units at the back, and a restaurant overlooking Lyme Bay.
Palmers’ architects are considering whether some letting rooms could be included to provide visitor accommodation and the plans must incorporate residential units, which the brewery said was “essential” to fund the multi-million pound cost of developing the site.
The brewery has spent more than seven months consulting with town and district councillors, planning officers and the campaign group to find a future for the site that is both economically viable and benefits Lyme Regis.
Palmers also commissioned hospitality specialists TRI Consulting to carry out an independent report into the financial viability of reconverting the building into a working hotel.
A brewery spokesman said it hoped the ‘diligent’ consultation work carried out so far will mean that the proposals would “strike a chord” with the public.
The spokesman added that it was too early to specify a particular retail use.
The cost of renovating the building would depend on which set of proposals was finally chosen, said the spokesman.
A planning application will be submitted following the consultation event.


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Building has ‘no future’ as a hotel

The bottom line is that the Three Cups will never be re-opened as a hotel, said Palmers.
A spokesman for the brewery said: “The hotel option has been fully explored using independent specialists to produce a report that was independently verified for West Dorset District Council.
“The outcome was that a hotel was found to be economically unviable”.
But campaigners said Palmers reasons for ruling out the hotel are a ‘red herring’.
Campaign group chairman John Dover said: “The TRI report commissioned by Palmers did not state that a hotel was economically unviable. The report concluded that the conversion of the neglected and dilapidated Three Cups building to the two hotel options chosen by Palmers were unviable.
“Why do other hoteliers remain interested if the hotel option, in Palmers’ view, is a non-starter?”
He added: “These reasons used by Palmers to rule out a hotel are a ‘red herring’. We believe that, for over 20 years, Palmers have never wanted to reopen the Three Cups as a hotel.
“When the land at the rear of the building had been stabilised and the time was right they would then proceed to achieve what they wanted all along.
“That is to maximise their financial return with predominantly residential accommodation.”

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